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The 6th man award is given to the best player that comes off the bench, and enters the game as the "sixth man" and contributes the most to his team

The best way I have found to get this trophy is to substitute one player from the bench into the game, do this every game (or at least most games), and make sure that it is the same player (this point is very important). You also want to have him contribute a considerable amount to each game (points, assists, rebounds, steals, etc.).

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How do you make tackles/steals on defense, I can never make them.?

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Its just circle usually you have to repeatedly do it

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How to accept trade in nba 07 in dynasty?

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You go to the mail and at the bottom left of the message it says Reply: Review, accept or reject.

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How do you do a dunk IN NBA LIVE 07?

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You just press triangle

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A2 you aint right. -Answer by:dist15

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What happens when you complete nba dynasty mode?

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I need to figure out how to get a perfect 50 on the dunk contest everytime?

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Hold L1 and use the square gather with the square dunk and you'll do Dr. J's dunk if you do it right you'll get between 50 and 48

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How to make more money in dynasty mode ? like I want sign a player but my salary cap is killing me so what should I do ?

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Trade for expiring contracts. Check for upcoming free agents in GM Central. Get rid your long term deals.

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How to unlock slam dunk contest?

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Press start

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How do you create a player?

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You do to create a player

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Go to main menu and press roster management then press create player

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Is there anyway to obtain more Create-A-Player Slots?

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How do I throw the ball off the crane in nba live 07?

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How do I make micheal jordan?

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First, you have to have NBA Live 07 on PS2. If you do, first, you go to roster management. Then, you click on it. Next, you see a list. You press create player. Then, two things come up. Click on create player. Then, there it is. Your welcome :)

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How to throw ball in slam dunk in basic controller for pc?

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You don't thats or the alley opp practice. -Answer by:dist15

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If you adjust the roster how do you bring those rosters into dynasty mode?

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Make your rosters and enter dynasty mode and in the first screen you see turn the draft off and turn fantasy draft off. then it will work.

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Make your roster on the main menu under roster management then save roster on the save menu then load roster and go to dynasty and skip the draft

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Can any 1 give me a list on how to do all the dunks?

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Does anyone have stat lines for scottie pippien and reggie miller?

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What happens when you beat dynasty mode

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Nothing happen when you beat DM

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How can I make kevin durant and greg oden faces, maybe someone know?

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Yes you can go to nbalive08.com then forums and then 07/08CAPS look there

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You can make them by going to nbalive08.com and then forum and then you can copy the face like coordinates and then you can make them -Answer by:NBAliveman28

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First Name: Greg
Last Name: Oden
Birth Year: 1988
Birth Month: January
Birthday: 22
Birth City:Buffalo
Birth State: NY
Primary Position: C
Secondary Position: C
Hand: Right
Jersey Number: 20
Years Pro: Rookie
School: Ohio State

Ratings
Field Goals: 74
3 Pointers: 1
Free Throws: 62
Dunking: 82
Inside Scoring: 78
Off. Rebounds: 72
Jumping: 67
Strength: 81
Quickness: 78
Speed: 71
Passing:50
Dribbling: 53
Off. Awareness:74
Def. Rebounds: 82
Stealing: 27
Blocking: 80
Def. Awareness: 83
Stamina 80
Hardiness: 78
Primacy: 68

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Bio
First Name: Kevin
Last Name: Durant
Birth Year: 1988
Birth Month: September
Birthday: 29
Birth City: Washington
Birth State: D.C.
Primary Position: Small Forward
Secondary Position: Power Forward
Hand: Right
Team: Seattle SuperSonics
Jersey Number: 35
Years Pro: 0
School: Texas

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Field Goals: 80
3 Pointers: 73
Free Throws: 81
Dunking: 77
Inside Scoring: 67
Off. Rebounds: 43
Jumping: 77
Strength: 40
Quickness: 78
Speed: 77
Passing: 63
Dribbling: 75
Off. Awareness: 80
Def. Rebounds: 71
Stealing: 50
Blocking: 65
Def. Awareness: 68
Stamina: 79
Hardiness: 68
Clutch: 73

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How do I get michael jordan?

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You get michael jordan by entering in the cheat code place thelegend23, then it will say michael jordan unlocked to play.

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Haha. why would it be "thelegend23" when everything else is like something like this? KDZ2MQL17W
HYIOUHCAAN

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You can't get Jordan, who said that you can unlock him, ha ha!

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Thelegend23 doesn't work

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Create a player and name him #99, then place him on the chicago bulls roster. Ha Ha ha, yes you can have micheal jordan

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The Lengend 23? What if hes on the rockets this time around.

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You creat him
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Eye position: 5 left
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Eye color: far right

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Age: 3 from far left

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Body type: Medium
Muscle definition: cut
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 216 lbs

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Bio
Name: Micheal Jordan
Date of birth: February 17 1963
Birth place: Brooklyn, New York
Position: shooting guard
Hand: right
team: which ever teame you want him on
Number: 23 or 45
Years pro: 15
School: North Carolina

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Field goal: 90
3-pt shooting: 80
Free throw: 87
Dunking: 99
Inside scoring: 92
Off. rebound: 73
Jumping: 99
Strength: 82
Quickness: 93
Speed: 91
Passing: 80
Dribbling: 97
Off. awareness: 99
Def. Rebound: 82
Stealing: 81
Blocking: 70
Def. awareness: 85
Stamina: 90
Hardiness: 87
Clutch: 98
Overall: 99

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I need to figure out how to get a perfect 50 on the dunk contest everytime?

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Hold down L1 and R1 and Dunk with O he will put it through is legs twice easy 50

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(for ps2) Press triangle and during the gather rotate the stick in a 720 degree angle and the press O and u will do a 720dunk thats a auto 50 and press O 2x's holding all top buttons and do a dub. under the legz and thats 100 points iight

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HAND SPRING DOUBLE UNDER THE LEGS
hold L1 L2 click forward and press circle then let go of cirlce but still hold on to L1 L2 when your player is in the air press circle again still holding L1 L2 then when your player is about to grab the ball under his legs let go.

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Hold L1 then press and hold circl to craddle the ball and then dunk it. make sure you jump from the line next to or the free throw

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Go from just before half court hold r1 and l1 and press cirlce nd in air press l1 r1 circle its cartwheel to double between legs perfect 50 evry time let go of cirlce second time when ball is into the second hand

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Press L1 and circle on the take off and press it agian in the air.......hold till ur player almost puts the ball through the second leg.........u have to start the dunk half way bettween the 3 point line and half court

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Hold R1 and L1 from the middle of the court then press O [hold L1 and R1 the whole time] when your player gets to the 3 pt. line after the cartwheel press circle and hold circle til the ball touches the other hand then release the circle button

Note: It may take a few trys , I suggest to practice this dunk a few times

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Heres a few dunks you can try:

there's the double between the legs dunk(hold r1,r2, gather o, dunk:o)

off the board and elbow dunk ala vince carter (board-oop and hold r1, r2, gather square, dunk triangle)

off the board and between the legs (board-oop hold r1, r2, gather triangle, dunk x)

armpit dunk (just the same as elbow dunk, just the right timing)

under two legs (jump from the baseline, outside gather trangle, dunk x)

acrobat between the legs dunk (stand from mid court, throw ball to shot clock, run then gather o at 3-point-line, then dunk: x)

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You want to get a 50 dunk in the dunk contest actually its pretty simple all you have to do is toss the ball on the big screen by pressing the directional button right + right analog stick.If you want to get a 50 dunk do the windmill dunk by pressing the directional button right + right analog stick wait for the ball to reach the screen then press the triangle 2x or press triangle,X its all about timing if you get it right then you get a perfect 50 try the left screen if you want to do the windmill dunk again but its a little hard in the left big screen you might get perfect score of zero.try different controls might end up on a 360 dunk or a 740 to get a perfect 50.

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Just do triangle for your gather and x for the dunk it is never below a 49

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Go to the corner behind the net and hold R1 and press o+o

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To get a perfect score is to start from out of bounds then press and hold L1 and R1 then gather with x and dunk with circle.This dunk will make your super star under both of your legs at the same time.

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Gather with x rotate the left analog stick in a 360 and dunk with x this will make him do a 360 between the legs

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To get a 50 is to press and hold L1 R1 then gather with square then dunk with triangle this will make him put his elbow in the rim but if you want his whole arm in the rim hold triangle till the highest peak and then dunk

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Do a double between the legs dunk, it works everytime and then after in the second round do a arm in the rim dunk, they are both 50's -Answer by:probasketball28

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PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION SOMEBODY!!!???? Can you put players like chris mullin, david robinson, and tim hardaway in the legend pool to be traded to the other teams???

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No I only know u can do it on nba live 2003 and some others probably but not nba live 2007

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Go to roster management/sign or release player then go to free agents press left or right then choose the legend that you want to sign. -Answer by:michaeljim23

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How do I add players like Karl Malone, Larry Johnson, Chris Mullin, David Robinson,etc to live rosters?

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Id think you can bc they are alreay retired -Answer by:NBAliveman28

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You go to roster and then sign n realease if your team roster is full realse one player into the free agents and then press press r1 or r2 to change from free agents to legends and chose which ever legend you want and them on your team

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You can't.Not with sign/release ,or trade.Maybe you have to beat the teams ,or play games on the all-star setting,because I can't figure it out.

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Haha, you can create them on make a player and stuff then add them 2 the roster lol

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You can go to the legends pge

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What are the stat lines to create ewing?

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How to do an alley oop in the bigboard?

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Push right and then the left anlog stick -Answer by:Shame218

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Is jay-z in nba live 07 or 06?

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He is in 07

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No how would you get rappers in a nba live game -Answer by:NBAliveman28

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Remember j.dupree? he was included in nba04 so it's possible jay-z would be in 07..

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JAY-Z IZ NOT IN NBA LIVE 07
just trust me

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Unlock Jay-Z (NOTE: Have to be connected to Xbox Live)
Enter "H.I.Z.Z.O." in the password screen to unlock Jay-Z. - Hope this helps! - Drahcir

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How do I get my created player into the "Dynasty Mode" in NBA Live 07?

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After you have created your player select the team that he'll be playing. If he's not on any team your player is automatically placed at the free agents pool. Once your player is on the team he's now active on the roster. If he's on the free agents pool, sign your player as a free agent on the team that you desired. Then go to dynasty mode and select the team which your created player has been signed or placed with.

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You can create the player and either keep him in the free agent pool or put him on a team. once you do that, save the roster and then start a dynasty. if you choose to do you own 2006 draft it wont let the created player in. you can fantasty draft the player or sign him on. or you can alreasy have him on a team

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When I play in a dunk contest the CPU makes unbelivable dunks,they spin 5 times then they dunk etc.how can I make these dunks?

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Press traingle 5 times then press the r 3 button then press circle

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How coud that be? Most are like circle triangle. I would like to hear sombody who actually knowa what they are talking about.

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How can you get the overall on your draft pick to increase in dynasty mode?

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Pick players that you think will work godd together not just the good players -Answer by:NBAliveman28

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How do you receive Michael jordan in Live 07?

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U cant

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You can create him
just find da code on google for his create-a-player

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How do I perform a level 3 highflyer?

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Hold L1 and push the right anologue stick either up down left or right and then rotate the stick in a 360 from which ever way you push it

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To do an instant 50 ally-oop and then press triangle+Circle
And wala its an instant 50

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Hold l1 and r1 then press x x..

hold l! and r2 press square square

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How do you do all the incredible dunks?

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You do a double between the legs the first round then the second round you do a arm or elbow in the rim dunk they always get 50's -Answer by:NBAliveman28

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Start at the left three point line[right between the sideline and the three point line]. Do an underhand toss by holding up for two seconds on the right anolg stick. Then wait for one full second[if its not long enough it wont work]. When your done wating one second go right to the ball hold down rl and r2. the press circle twice. The second time you click circle hold on to it. And when the ball touches his receiving hand let go of circle and that will be a perfect 50. Everything hs to be quick. And perfectly timed.

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Just try to hold L1 and turn left to down, right to up..etc -Answer by:pinoyballa

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Hey dude and ppls i know the best dunks recomendation which can win u the game everytime . do these as u follow -

round 1----- basket 1 - x+o basket 2-'(ftabn")l1+x+x basket -3-r1 +triangle +x

round 2------ basket 1 - l1 +square + triangle basket -2 - l1 +square +x basket 3- ( ftabn )l1 +square +square

round 3-------- basket 1- l1 +o+o basket 2 - (ftabn) r1 +triangle +triangle basket 3 - l1 +o +x

by the way ''ftabn'' ''means from the area behind net''. hope it help u im 110 %sure that it will work . cya . and if u need any help about nba live 2007 or 2008 0r 2009 just ask me or if u need slam dunkin cool moves. well, later dude. farewell

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How do you throw the ball off the camera or big screen in the slam dunk contest?

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By holding down the left arrow key to throw off left jumbotron and right key arrow key to throw off right jumbotron. Also to throw it off the camera you hold the down arrow key and hit the right analog stick. PRESTO A VERY NICE DUNK!

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While your on the ground hold left D-pad in the controller then push the right analog stick in any direction. The player will surely throw the ball of the big screen. If you want to throw it in the camera hold up D-pad in the controller then push the right analog stick in any direction

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To throw it off the screen , all you have to do is press the left or right D-pad button to aim left or right. then trigger the analog alley button

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Just Press da D-pad left or right button and da right anolog stick for the jumbo tron

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How do you get new hawks uniform?

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How ya do tha signature shot on ps2?

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You don't that is only on nba live 08. -Answer by:dist15

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Does anybody kno how to make ac law from portland trailblazers?

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He's a ''Hawk'' now,lol.

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He was never a Trail Blazers he has always been a hawk so if you want him on Blazers trade him to them. If you don't know about basketball you shouldn't be playing the game

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How do you do different dunks in all star weekend.(dunk contest)?

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There is a dunk school in game modes great for practice. you will need practice. use one of the buttons as you are around the 3pt line then quickly use another or the same button and hold till the animation pauses and let go to get the perfect dunk(for that 50). if you use a 180 x gather (180) then a (pump) O you will have to be closer to goal than a square (one foot) to a triangle (tomahawk) from the free through line. use the r3 stick to lob the ball straight in u,d,l,r or hold even semi circles and circles changes the lobs. if you cant get to the ball on a dunk change the lob everything takes you different distances to equal how far you start from the goal. r1 L1 modify dunks Lhand Rhand L3 in circles completes the 360.

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For Ps2:you can press different buttons like Triangle+ sqaure or press the two modifier buttons (L1 and R1) or you could toss the ball and ally it(but thats hard you need to practise for it)

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It all depends on what you like for a dunk
theres all these diff. gathers and hops you can do its basically your choice of dunks -Answer by:NBAliveman28

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How do you do the signature shots on Live 07 for PS2?

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You put the outside scorer icon on and then hold L1 and press o

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Hold down L1 and move the right analog stick in any directoin

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Use their freestyle moves example:for superstar level players L1 and rotate the right analog stick 1/4 circle -Answer by:fredfred756

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You can't as it is only on ps3 and 360

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Wut you do is you hold L1 then you turn the analog stick 1/4 trun to any side and it should do a dunk or shot or lay-up -Answer by:NBAliveman28

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What are the codes for those jordan shoes?

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There are none ,you must buy them from nba store

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Just type in the letters

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Here r sum codes:

PNBBX1EVT5

VIR13PC451

IB7G8NN91Z

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The codes don't work. Trust me I've tried gust by um

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You play a game in DM then simulate 2games and youll have enough ponts to buy all the shoes

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How to do new dunks int the slam dunk contest?

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Hold R1 r2 and gather O and dunk with X and press L1 many time

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How do I creat luis scola?

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You can do it but frist you have to have internet then go to nba .com and go to players the find luis scola stase and every thin do it on the game.I did it you shoud try it it's tit his good in the rockets

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Whats the combination for michael jordans famous behind the freethrow line dunk? I see players do it all the time in the slam dunk contest

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Start from half court then start to run to 3 point line then push square when you are behind the free throw line push circle

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When is season mode with I re-order the roster for all the teams the way I want it to be. Why do the nba rosters go back to default when I play my game as if I never changed the roseters in the 1st place?

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You have to save the roster before going into the season.

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You have to turn off the nba draft in dynasty mode

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You have to save the changes by saving the game and settings before you play the game. (for PS2)

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You have to turn off the rookie draft for o6 before you start your dynasty and then the teams will be the way you want them.

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Before U start off your season....u gotta switch the NBA Draft from no to yes......which means there's no NBA draft....

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Save your roster then take off 2006 nba draft to no then your rosteres will wrk

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What are the ratings that a created player has to have to be a freestyle superstar.?

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FULL everything -Answer by:fredfred756

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85 or higher

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About 90-99

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How can u get your best shooter to shoot 3pointers all game?

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Pumpfake until they jump then press the shoot button and hold it

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In season and dynasty mode, just use that player to throw three point shots make sure those shots will go in but dont worry if you miss some shots.

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I no a cheat 4 this its preety long to do but its worth it.on the main menu go to options and click on game settings it should show the sliders. once your on that press r1 till your on user settings. then make all sliders to 100.this will make your shooting perfect,but you cant do full court shots with this only the shots near the three point line

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How do I unlock jay-z?

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You dont

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You cant -Answer by:dist15

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